Misinformation. Carbuncle is only agl 3 and does not outpace most cards. The +5 defense is almost unoticeable and only has 55hp, which allows many mid game combos to one shot it, especially on a front line unit. Carbuncle is really nice against other refress players though, since it will strike before basically the entire army does.Eeyore wrote:Besides Karina, who is easily killed by any deck, Gowen's only team type ability is RANK UP. Practically every card Refess plays has some sort of team ability. Some even act before the Gowen cards, I think Carbunkle's ability does.
A good gowen player can one shot lion baron via spell or some combination of combat monk and magic sword weilder will remove it, since typically it will be the only surviving front row unit towards the mid game vs gowen.Eeyore wrote:A good Refess player will use that to their advantage. Like someone else said on here, Refess is best used as a slow counter-attack deck. Yeah most of your early troops will be whiped out against Gowen, then two Row-Attacking Soul Cards later you have Gowen's front line massacred and a ton of SP given to you so you can summon your big guns that dominate Gowen like your level 4 character card which uses Gowen's best skill against it (Mob Mentality). That card uses the amount of enemy cards X 10 in addition to its base attack.
Magic sword weilder, fire storm wyvern, and efreet are the gowen cards commonly played after the level 2s are exhausted. The level really only matters for efreet though, since level 6s are a pain to bring out, unless a row of level 2s were just sent to the cemetary (see suggestions for refress using row based atk cards...). Bear killing axeman tends to be the sacrifice card to absorb damage and trigger soul effects back on their opponent. Revolver knight is ranged support... Not commonly used though.Eeyore wrote:Refess is difficult, but they are actually a very good clan to play against Gowen since Gowen is usually a dead duck if the game turns into a battle of the Level 3's and 4's. Gowen has the worst level 3's in the game in my opinion. They don't have the same overpowered attacks for their level like their miniature brethren do, they still have no defense to make up for that, and they don't have any cohesion to their assault.
Eeyore wrote:Yes Gowen can kill Lion Baron once or twice with ease. The problem is that Refess players get 3 copies of that monster! I just used Magic Sword Dual-Wielder against him with her Fire skill which gives him -20 attack. No good! I still had 4-5 cards out on my side due to my usage of "Mob Mentality". Lion Baron still attacked for 40-50 damage, I forget which, and knocked out one of my key front lineman....
Eeyore wrote:I think it is Carbunckle who has the start skill that activates in the beginning of each round before its his turn to act right? I know for sure one Refess card does that. I always find it strange. Even if Gowen has 4 agility cards out the 3 agility start skill will activate first in my experience. That's what I was getting at.
And Gowen doesn't have many 1-hit answers for Carbuncle. Especially ones where we'd go out of our way to use them on. I as a Gowen player will usually save my Fire Arrow's for Lion Baron or Spearwomen rather than a card like Carbuncle who is annoying, but doesn't single handedly cripple me.
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