GonFreeces31 wrote:I mean I don't mean or intend for so many threads to be about me. Usually what happens, as happened in this thread, is that I'll make a comment about something, then other people, convinced in their heads that I'm this egotistical maniac (which is not true), will start posting just to flame me. I'm not really sure why this trend keeps happening, but part of growing up and being more mature is to leave debates about ideas strictly that, and not having them turn personal. If I criticize someone else's idea, or vice verse, that should not be misconstrued as a personal attack.
Probably I should just let the flamers flame and not respond to it. I guess if people want to act childish I shouldn't drop down to that level.
I read this thread over again after reading this. Only AD has addressed you here. You addressed him directly here too. That is not flaming.
I have realised after reading this that we can never win, or get you to understand. For us to try is akin to us arguing with a stupid person. You bring us down to your level then beat us with experience. Only in your case Im not sure if it is stupidity so much as a level of vanity and a false feeling of superiority that we can simply never hope to understand - it is in itself a specialised form of stupidity. Since I am human and feel the need to identify everything, Im gonna call this the "Gon experience".
If you hear me use this term, you will understand that I am talking about a point in time where all intelligence in any discussion has been lost to undue vanity and silly notions that simply don't apply to the discussion at hand. It impacts on my sense and sensibilities to such an extent as it can cause vertigo (gon, that means I feel dizzy).
PS: I am sorry AD. I am weak in his presence and feel the need to respond.
Back on subject.
Doesn't the fact that we are scientifically proven to be the same species show a racist government when it divides its people by skin colour when making (especially negative) statistics? When I read the statistic you presented us with regarding young men and older white women, two things came instantly to mind. At first I asked myself if there could possibly be a more emotive statistic anyone could possibly come up with. The US government has been using the threat of black men raping white women for almost a century now (do you realise that was part of their original anti-hemp campaign - that smoking pot made black men destroy white women?). The second thing that crossed my mind was the distinct lack of any comparable statistics - for example, where is the stat that shows how many white males did the same thing?
Of course the second thought was what ultimately lead me to the quick conclusion that the original text presented to AD by some government agency was designed purely to get an emotional response from its reader. The statistic was found with a purely racist intent and can not be described any other way. The fact that the government is actually collecting data that defines people by race further encourages racism in its people on many levels. Unfortunatley many countries collate data this way, including my own.
Sadly, there are other statistics from the US that show males in court are likely to get differing sentencing for similar or same crimes based on their skin colour as well. There are also stats that show the likely hood of being actually charged or questioned on some matters by police also changes with skin colour. I am of the opinion that all of things issues need addressing from the very core.
Statistics should no longer represent racist views, but wholistic views instead. Community supports, job availability, rates of pay, segregated communities - all of these things should be on a balanced scale. As long as discrepancies remain, people will continue have very different life experiences based on their colour. This means more hate crimes, more dispassionate feelings toward our neighbours and ultimately more unhappiness universally.
I often wonder how many geniuses and world changing people our world has missed out on because they were born the wrong colour.