AqvasFire2 wrote:The argument not to nerf because the newbies have them is a valid one. But mid ref is one of the most boring files to play with, or against IMO. You just plop one mid ref unit after another, spend 2 minutes every turn seeing buffs go off, and just slow roll the whole damn time. I mean I suppose the same could be said for the ref sphere as a whole, that every single strategy it has aside from bigs is focused on snowballing crap and just burying your opponent in an avalanche of uber-buffed refess doodz, whether a bunch of buncles reducing your attack to 0, SKs all one-shotting you at agi 4+, mid ref having a zillion HP and defense and just crushing you, or True Retear setting up infinite dragons.
I suppose Falkow can also be boring to play against (oh hey I'm just going to get returned into the abyss), but at least it involves some manner of doing something besides plopping units.
Edit: as for "we all have to lose sometime", it really doesn't feel good to lose because "oh hey derp, you just ran across a crap match". We want to feel like we had a chance, and if we just did A and B differently, we could have won the game. EG in Starcraft "if I had just scouted his proxy gates" or w/e. As for Starcraft, sure, you have cheaters, but what about those who legitimately are good?
Also, the fun thing about starcraft is that yeah, everyone loses, because they have a skill-pairing system that always tries to find equal-strength players and throws better players to better leagues to the point that even the very best, such as WhiteRa, for instance, have 60% winrates. And yeah, I can have a 90% winning file (dolls, for instance), but still get rolled by mid refess fairy blessing over my shelby song and go "well WTF was I supposed to do about that?" That's a really crappy feeling.
See, it's not about win or lose, but about how you lose. When you lose a contested match, you learn, you have fun, you say GG. When you lose just because it's a crap match, your file looks like crap and you generally feel frustrated or resigned rather than feeling like you had a chance. And those losses can linger, especially if they eat your TB-star.
Too many one-sided match-ups is indeed a balance issue.
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