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Re: Set 12 JP Preview

Postby Pikeru » Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:10 am

sunbunman wrote:I predict samurai dude getting nerfed anyways, or else there's gonna be tons of fun with him and rasam SS/shecas/etc in out of sphere uses like with current geissoul

Let's hope so, but then again Assassin should read like this: "Send an enemy unit of equal or lesser cost to the unit you sent to the grave." and since that has yet to happen, it looks like Falkow will have 1 more instakill to abuse. Personally, I'm also disgusted by Explosive Wyvern's existence. It's the equivalent of 1-hitting a pokemon your opponent hasn't even used yet, without using up your attack for the turn mind you. Aquas does make good point about the damage(anyone notice Dilate has an upgraded Bringer open?), the problem being it's invalidated by return/send's continued existence which is exponentially stronger. Burn can only kill a creature once at a time if its hp is low enough, while these kill a creature thrice over regardless of health.
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Re: Set 12 JP Preview

Postby AqvasFire2 » Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:20 am

sunbunman wrote:I predict samurai dude getting nerfed anyways, or else there's gonna be tons of fun with him and rasam SS/shecas/etc in out of sphere uses like with current geissoul


That's the entire POINT, you goof. Come on--when's the last time you saw Rasam as a unit, or Diondora's "formula of sealing" used? Archmages need this guy like water to get resurrected. Yes, you can abuse him with Rasam SS. Dem's the breaks. Honestly, fixing him would be quite simple: require gowen 3+ to use his open. Now at least it isn't every boy and his dog with a rasam SS spamming him for instant wins. Seriously--Falkow has tidal as a level 1 conditioned on Falk 3 to do anything, Refess has tally of disruption AND fairy blessing, Lawtia I think has dark confederation (not sure), certainly stronghold of chaos qualifies--only Gowen is without some bomb effect that's cheap to use but requires half-decent sphere level.

So yeah. Require gowen 3+, and maybe Gowen/Falkow will make a comeback after it was raped so badly after the set 10 nerfs.
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Re: Set 12 JP Preview

Postby AqvasFire2 » Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:21 am

Pikeru wrote:
sunbunman wrote:I predict samurai dude getting nerfed anyways, or else there's gonna be tons of fun with him and rasam SS/shecas/etc in out of sphere uses like with current geissoul

Let's hope so, but then again Assassin should read like this: "Send an enemy unit of equal or lesser cost to the unit you sent to the grave." and since that has yet to happen, it looks like Falkow will have 1 more instakill to abuse. Personally, I'm also disgusted by Explosive Wyvern's existence. It's the equivalent of 1-hitting a pokemon your opponent hasn't even used yet, without using up your attack for the turn mind you. Aquas does make good point about the damage(anyone notice Dilate has an upgraded Bringer open?), the problem being it's invalidated by return/send's continued existence which is exponentially stronger. Burn can only kill a creature once at a time if its hp is low enough, while these kill a creature thrice over regardless of health.


Dilate indeed does have an upgraded Bringer open. The rest of the unit is very unimpressive, however. That said, agreed anyway.

Buff Bringer open.
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Re: Set 12 JP Preview

Postby InfernityFan » Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:42 am

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Peralisc9001 wrote:Three-headed dragon should get a tripple target actionskill also his skills shouldn't be dependent on area 1-2-3.


I think he mistranslated. Google translate giving me impression it does damage to 1, 2 or 3 units O_o


Fixed. I must be under impression it's area targeting since it has a similiar structure :P Thanks for pointing that out.
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Re: Set 12 JP Preview

Postby Anima13 » Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:23 am

Khiruki wrote:Did Yuni gain weight?

Was also the first thing i thought when I saw her :D.
Maybe emana inspired her to become a sea cow now :D.
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Re: Set 12 JP Preview

Postby Peralisc9001 » Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:46 am

Glad to hear Lv 1 BS samurai will get changed.

Either way can't wait to upgrade my explosive gowen open file with tripple dragon and exploding wyvern. @_@
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Re: Set 12 JP Preview

Postby wakka9ca » Fri Dec 14, 2012 10:53 am

Good job on the work Infernity. Continues the spirit of my old threads :D

If you need help on checking the validity of certain cards, I can help starting towards the end of next week, when I will have some free time. I can read Japanese so I can always trust myself instead of the translation tools. However, I must admit the translation tools are getting better and better.
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Re: Set 12 JP Preview

Postby Peralisc9001 » Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:55 am

Dical's actionskill is mistranslated.
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Re: Set 12 JP Preview

Postby AqvasFire2 » Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:31 pm

Please don't change the samurai's open skill. Add a condition of Gowen 3+ or something, but please don't change it. IMO Gowen pretty desperately needs this guy because as of the moment, it's the only sphere without some form of removal (Lawt merc death, Ref Aano/Bardia, Falk returns).

Would he be obnoxious? Yeah. But he's what Gowen needs to get back in the game IMO.
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Re: Set 12 JP Preview

Postby Icyglare » Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:27 am

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