Phoenix Chick still needs a nerf :p

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Re: Phoenix Chick still needs a nerf :p

Postby GuilleumeFG » Sat Nov 24, 2012 4:14 pm

it really dont need any nerf anymore, what do you guys want a lvl 5 PHOENIX that dont revive have 20 atk, 1 rng and thats all?
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Re: Phoenix Chick still needs a nerf :p

Postby AqvasFire2 » Sat Nov 24, 2012 4:24 pm

Phoenix? Lvl 7.
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Re: Phoenix Chick still needs a nerf :p

Postby Romdeau » Sat Nov 24, 2012 4:30 pm

AqvasFire2 wrote:Phoenix? Lvl 7.

Considered it, deemed too harsh in conjunction with df=0 clause (and no, we weren't going to get rid of that).
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Re: Phoenix Chick still needs a nerf :p

Postby AqvasFire2 » Sat Nov 24, 2012 4:50 pm

Then what about the fact that Phoenix chick more or less autowins vs big red or anyone else that depends on huge damage from one unit?
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Re: Phoenix Chick still needs a nerf :p

Postby Peralisc9001 » Sat Nov 24, 2012 4:59 pm

Lv 7 means 2 turns of his actionskill req. Basically renders him useless.

I don't remember seeing anyone else using holy shield on it. xD
But it's necessary to keep him as a counter to rush and heavy hitters. I remember removing it with soul eaters hahaha!
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Re: Phoenix Chick still needs a nerf :p

Postby GonFreeces31 » Sat Nov 24, 2012 5:02 pm

AqvasFire2 wrote:Then what about the fact that Phoenix chick more or less autowins vs big red or anyone else that depends on huge damage from one unit?

"Because X is strong against Y, it needs to be errata'd"

If that were true half the cards in the game would be nerfed.
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Re: Phoenix Chick still needs a nerf :p

Postby AqvasFire2 » Sat Nov 24, 2012 5:51 pm

GonFreeces31 wrote:
AqvasFire2 wrote:Then what about the fact that Phoenix chick more or less autowins vs big red or anyone else that depends on huge damage from one unit?

"Because X is strong against Y, it needs to be errata'd"

If that were true half the cards in the game would be nerfed.


The cards that were as strong against stuff as Phoenix chick is against bigs got nerfed severely. Look, you put Phoenix chick against any one unit in the game, it will not lose. And unlike hero Dilate, it's max HP immune, despite hero Dilate arguably being a level 5 in nature (level 4 requiring 6 sphere = level 5 IMO). This card basically makes the Gowen sphere that much worse, period.
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Re: Phoenix Chick still needs a nerf :p

Postby Icyglare » Sat Nov 24, 2012 5:59 pm

AqvasFire2 wrote:The cards that were as strong against stuff as Phoenix chick is against bigs got nerfed severely. Look, you put Phoenix chick against any one unit in the game, it will not lose. And unlike hero Dilate, it's max HP immune, despite hero Dilate arguably being a level 5 in nature (level 4 requiring 6 sphere = level 5 IMO). This card basically makes the Gowen sphere that much worse, period.


Time to stop relying on the one card mentality, Dilate and Phoenix both can take on a lot of units one on one. If you need a solution with big red, use bringer (every big red has that).

Have something that can deal 90dmg on the field, use bringer's open.
Or Have Bringer on the field, use a firearrow, fireball breath, or frick'n anything that deals 30 dmg, I'm sure big red can manage that somehow.
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Re: Phoenix Chick still needs a nerf :p

Postby Callonia » Sat Nov 24, 2012 6:09 pm

Icyglare wrote:
AqvasFire2 wrote:The cards that were as strong against stuff as Phoenix chick is against bigs got nerfed severely. Look, you put Phoenix chick against any one unit in the game, it will not lose. And unlike hero Dilate, it's max HP immune, despite hero Dilate arguably being a level 5 in nature (level 4 requiring 6 sphere = level 5 IMO). This card basically makes the Gowen sphere that much worse, period.


Time to stop relying on the one card mentality, Dilate and Phoenix both can take on a lot of units one on one. If you need a solution with big red, use bringer (every big red has that).

Have something that can deal 90dmg on the field, use bringer's open.
Or Have Bringer on the field, use a firearrow, fireball breath, or frick'n anything that deals 30 dmg, I'm sure big red can manage that somehow.


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Re: Phoenix Chick still needs a nerf :p

Postby AqvasFire2 » Sat Nov 24, 2012 8:00 pm

Icyglare wrote:
AqvasFire2 wrote:The cards that were as strong against stuff as Phoenix chick is against bigs got nerfed severely. Look, you put Phoenix chick against any one unit in the game, it will not lose. And unlike hero Dilate, it's max HP immune, despite hero Dilate arguably being a level 5 in nature (level 4 requiring 6 sphere = level 5 IMO). This card basically makes the Gowen sphere that much worse, period.


Time to stop relying on the one card mentality, Dilate and Phoenix both can take on a lot of units one on one. If you need a solution with big red, use bringer (every big red has that).

Have something that can deal 90dmg on the field, use bringer's open.
Or Have Bringer on the field, use a firearrow, fireball breath, or frick'n anything that deals 30 dmg, I'm sure big red can manage that somehow.


Stop relying on the one-card mentality? Try playing big red vs. mid ref. My guess is that you will die horribly.
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