Conditional Fruit Goes First

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Re: Conditional Fruit Goes First

Postby AquasFire3 » Tue Nov 27, 2012 7:28 pm

fruit isnt just a situational card.Honestly there are many combos you can do with the fruit grim. Instead of using it to just block returns. Blocking return with fruit is kind of a bonus :)
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Re: Conditional Fruit Goes First

Postby NitroDino » Tue Nov 27, 2012 7:29 pm

AquasFire3 wrote:fruit isnt just a situational card.Honestly there are many combos you can do with the fruit grim. Instead of using it to just block returns. Blocking return with fruit is kind of a bonus :)


Not many combos:
- Francis
- Dolls
- troll Chick
- RFA
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Re: Conditional Fruit Goes First

Postby Icyglare » Tue Nov 27, 2012 7:51 pm

Well, I don't want to derail Icyman's thread with a quote from Icyman from another thread but

Icyman2 wrote:Miracle fruit
Prevent aura
Prevent instant revival
Prevent shin start
Prevent fierce skill
Prevent belus/bkr start engage
Prevent cem rats/Prevent liz ss/Allow you to hit a rush file with shvara's attack (done all 3 with a single fruit)
Prevent returns (sometimes)/Prevent faytis
Prevent afee ss (primrose is nice for dodging afee ss using pixies, though not a lot of people use afee ss anymore, it's still a precaution for me whenever i play my monsters file with early grebados ss)
Buff command dolls
Allows for rfa (double rfa ss)
Buff vosrot's action skill
Dodge fortune open
Dodge ex dical's auto
Dodge mild's start
Enable Olvalus skill
Prevent leo's auto
Force trigger another form of rivarre/Enable rivarre's close
Use for kraken's return
Use for mermaid aquamancer's skill
Stop night wing wyvern's open
More damage for bopors ss (I've seen this used in an annette file)
Enable elena skill
Enable francis close/buff dalos attack
Enable cudgel's skill
Prevent legendary unicorn/orthos/squid's start/auto
Enable angel's trumpet/Enable the falkow level3 attack,agi=0 unit
Dodge pure terror
Dodge ex lelien
Prevent shield the weak
Prevent legyre auto
Dodge dead wing volfy's skill
There's def more uses, but it's getting more and more obscure because no one plays those cards so i'll leave it here.
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Re: Conditional Fruit Goes First

Postby Peralisc9001 » Tue Nov 27, 2012 7:58 pm

AquasFire3 wrote:fruit isnt just a situational card.Honestly there are many combos you can do with the fruit grim. Instead of using it to just block returns. Blocking return with fruit is kind of a bonus :)

Except it should have been a counter.
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Re: Conditional Fruit Goes First

Postby Icyman2 » Tue Nov 27, 2012 8:54 pm

I don't have a video of it. I just thought it was ridiculous how my opponent missed 2 cyclones and we still played a completely one-sided match. It didn't help ascrat kept on returning copies either. Anyways, with a matchup like non-wyvern mid falkow (ie level 4 falkow), I think that fruit should be a sure hit because even with fruit, you would have a very hard time winning the match. Perhaps it's not as much about fruit as it is about falkow units having so much attack, but you're unlikely to talk about nerfing ryu and mirelia either (but let's talk about nerfing jack again).
@icy how many of those cards besides return do you see in folrart?
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Re: Conditional Fruit Goes First

Postby Callonia » Tue Nov 27, 2012 9:18 pm

U guys forgetting about orthos's ablity, miracle fruit prevents the -30 atk on two of ur units.
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Re: Conditional Fruit Goes First

Postby Scientiafide » Tue Nov 27, 2012 9:29 pm

Icyglare wrote:Well, I don't want to derail Icyman's thread with a quote from Icyman from another thread but

Icyman2 wrote:Miracle fruit
Prevent aura
Prevent instant revival
Prevent shin start
Prevent fierce skill
Prevent belus/bkr start engage
Prevent cem rats/Prevent liz ss/Allow you to hit a rush file with shvara's attack (done all 3 with a single fruit)
Prevent returns (sometimes)/Prevent faytis
Prevent afee ss (primrose is nice for dodging afee ss using pixies, though not a lot of people use afee ss anymore, it's still a precaution for me whenever i play my monsters file with early grebados ss)
Buff command dolls
Allows for rfa (double rfa ss)
Buff vosrot's action skill
Dodge fortune open
Dodge ex dical's auto
Dodge mild's start
Enable Olvalus skill
Prevent leo's auto
Force trigger another form of rivarre/Enable rivarre's close
Use for kraken's return
Use for mermaid aquamancer's skill
Stop night wing wyvern's open
More damage for bopors ss (I've seen this used in an annette file)
Enable elena skill
Enable francis close/buff dalos attack
Enable cudgel's skill
Prevent legendary unicorn/orthos/squid's start/auto
Enable angel's trumpet/Enable the falkow level3 attack,agi=0 unit
Dodge pure terror
Dodge ex lelien
Prevent shield the weak
Prevent legyre auto
Dodge dead wing volfy's skill
There's def more uses, but it's getting more and more obscure because no one plays those cards so i'll leave it here.


Damn, that's a lot of uses. Miracle Fruit actually sounds kind of OP, we should nerf it.
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Re: Conditional Fruit Goes First

Postby GonFreeces31 » Tue Nov 27, 2012 9:33 pm

Icyman2 wrote:I don't have a video of it. I just thought it was ridiculous how my opponent missed 2 cyclones and we still played a completely one-sided match. It didn't help ascrat kept on returning copies either.

I guess I just don't understand what happened that resulted in them missing 2 cyclones, apparently spending a lot of set phases on forbidden book, and still managed to have a one sided game? I've played a lot of Mirelia in the past and verse strong lvl 3 gowen and lawtia rushes it's usually pretty even. That's why I suspect something weird happened - like they used a Vondclone SS gimic or Afeemina SS or something.
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Re: Conditional Fruit Goes First

Postby Icyman2 » Tue Nov 27, 2012 9:38 pm

Does 3 out of 4 5 sp mofs count? Otherwise it was lit return, use mirelia's skill, return, use mirelia's skill, mof, use mirelia's skill...
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Re: Conditional Fruit Goes First

Postby GonFreeces31 » Tue Nov 27, 2012 10:10 pm

Usually the more people use her action skill the worse they do... That skill's such a noob trap.
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