Nerf Vonderclone

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Nerf Vonderclone

Postby Icyman2 » Mon Jul 08, 2013 2:01 am

There is no excuse as to why this is still here. Insane sp advantage field advantage and set phase advantage against rushes and mids with no way to counter it without packing hard counters with no other uses (single-taskers) and miraculously predicting it. It adds no value to the game and by far is the most broken and one sided combo in alteil right now. On the scale of pre-nerf aegis to pre-nerf ruuca, it is up there with ruuca.

You guys got rasam nerfed. While it was good, its strength was its versatility; it was not blatantly overpowered. Vonderclone is much more heinous than rasam. If rasam was nerfed, I see no reason why vonderclone can't be touched.
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Re: Nerf Vonderclone

Postby gabotheplaya » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:42 am

I know of its existence, but never considered it as anything more than a weenie control measure...

I mean, mids can get out of it no problem.

I'll run this combo just to judge it for myself. i can already feel "a certain someone"'s robotic laugh when allind hits.
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Re: Nerf Vonderclone

Postby Jazzock » Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:59 am

Off topic but, I'm just wondering where pre-nerfs Primclone sits on your scale Icy :?

gabotheplaya wrote:I mean, mids can get out of it no problem.

Depends on the "mids". Lv5+ based files tend to avoid it completely obviously, but pretty much anything else dies to it (in my experience anyway).
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Re: Nerf Vonderclone

Postby Icyman2 » Thu Jul 11, 2013 9:51 pm

I swear to **** god this is the stupidest **** in the world. Had out 4 **** lawtia units with sacs and somehow urgrant opponent won. **** YOU AND **** EVERYONE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS CARD. DO THE PEOPLE WHO DO ERRATA EVEN PLAY ANYMORE?
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Re: Nerf Vonderclone

Postby gabotheplaya » Fri Jul 12, 2013 1:24 am

Icyman2 wrote:I swear to **** god this is the stupidest **** in the world. Had out 4 **** lawtia units with sacs and somehow urgrant opponent won. **** YOU AND **** EVERYONE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS CARD. DO THE PEOPLE WHO DO ERRATA EVEN PLAY ANYMORE?


I wish i could be playing it as well as the guy you fought, in 10+ matched it payed off like 1 time, and one time it worked but was meaningless since opponent just rebuilt quickly.

maybe if i had more urgrant...
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Re: Nerf Vonderclone

Postby Khiruki » Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:06 pm

It's Cyclone. That one card just molests set phases. Really should have a unit removal limit of sorts. Maybe two or three random units of level 2 or below or something.
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Re: Nerf Vonderclone

Postby Icyman2 » Fri Jul 12, 2013 3:55 pm

-end ragefest
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Re: Nerf Vonderclone

Postby GonFreeces31 » Sat Jul 13, 2013 2:50 pm

lol
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Re: Nerf Vonderclone

Postby Ropey » Mon Jul 15, 2013 10:07 am

Would you mind explaining what exactly Vonderclone is?
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Re: Nerf Vonderclone

Postby gabotheplaya » Mon Jul 15, 2013 7:58 pm

Ropey wrote:Would you mind explaining what exactly Vonderclone is?

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