a SHADEr idea

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a SHADEr idea

Postby asxlen64 » Sat Jul 20, 2013 6:32 pm

since there not many good sp gen tricks for first turn, and the fact shade can prevent opponent lvl3 while summoning a lvl3 next turn i propose this idea

openskill 1sp cost: rival gets -2sp

this way, players can use shade for more sp killing later on, while first turn prevents unbaised advantages
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Re: a SHADEr idea

Postby Icyman2 » Sat Jul 20, 2013 8:31 pm

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Re: a SHADEr idea

Postby WhiteDragon2 » Sun Jul 21, 2013 5:50 pm

Thats' a nerf to shade. Shade is THE level 1 unit for lawtia, thus that would nerf all lawtia level 3 rushes. A nerf of this proportion is probably a bad idea. Additionally we already have Death's Embrace for when you want sp drain late game thus the preposed shade wouldn't even add much to lawtia. We also have cards like emerald carbunble to counter shade opens.
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Re: a SHADEr idea

Postby asxlen64 » Mon Jul 22, 2013 12:49 am

YO!

Lawtia: Shade

Text has been changed from:
-Rival Iczer gets SP-2
To:
-Rival Iczer gets SP-1

That was the nerf that happen to shade. if you want to get even more details about death embrace check out what it ORIGINALLY would be like. and emerald carbuncle might be a good excuse for avoiding shade, but what you think happens when your opponent plays the same thing. BOOM 3sphere +1 refess and 2sp and skipping a turn. vs oh lets see 100s of differnet open that shade used to kill followed by lvl3 lawtia. -_-

and if you dont know what jp death embrace does, it does hp-30 to target unit THEN rival gets -2sp vs the cheap arse usa version which CANT BE AVOIDED
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Re: a SHADEr idea

Postby WhiteDragon2 » Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:16 am

I already knew about the past nerf on shade, however it doesn't change the fact that the preposed nerf will make shade worthless as an early game level 1 (and lawtia has no good replacements, unless your file can handle the self sp drain and awkward sp flow of toad shaman or you're playing EN), and late game the preposed shade will be a gimmick that other cards can usually do better.

You're also not forced to use buncle (and if you do and it backlashes, chances are your opponent is just as inconvinienced, and you can add a second copy if you fear the backlash), feel free to open with a level 2, a moxie, or a number of other cards designed to dodge shade such as Mechanical Bat and Rileira... or just open shade if you're playing lawtia yourself.
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