Different method of obtaining Gran

[Demongod]

Does this now hold with the fact that Crest Spy can LULZ PWN you in 3 turns through Iczer attacking?

[Otonashi]

Are you going to just sit there and not play any units for those 3 turns while Crest Spy slashes away at you?

[ANIMEniac]

Are you going to just sit there and not play any units for those 3 turns while Crest Spy slashes away at you?

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Only problem is the big files that love open field. This is why it has been mentioned that lots of starts are going to need rework.

[Demongod]

Annarose. Skeleton Warrior. Rats. Crest spy. Rats. Rats.

SS: Vanilla fierte.

Rush down, clear board, iczer like a madman.

[DanTheTimid]

Are you going to just sit there and not play any units for those 3 turns while Crest Spy slashes away at you?

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Only problem is the big files that love open field. This is why it has been mentioned that lots of starts are going to need rework.

Quoting a quote of a quote for extreme truth. Crest Spy is likely going to have an impact on the meta, I know its a card my old refess dragons file will have to take into account whenever I update it, but its hardly an unstoppable force that guarentees quick wins/losses. Further, if your going to lose anyway, at least trying to out last Crest Spy is a new "mini-game" you get to play, with 1 sp as a prize. I just think this idea would be a really cool way for over matched players to have a minor victory to strive for rather then the current system where if they play it out all they get is the sinking feeling of "I tryed my best but in the end it didn't really matter, why am I even still trying at all..."

[ANIMEniac]

Crest Spy isn't even that rare. I don't think you really need rares to try to utilize it (you could try to use Soulblade over Anna). It takes quite the plan and set-up to use it. It is a hit or miss card.

[garcia1000]

Further, if your going to lose anyway, at least trying to out last Crest Spy is a new "mini-game" you get to play, with 1 sp as a prize. I just think this idea would be a really cool way for over matched players to have a minor victory to strive for rather then the current system where if they play it out all they get is the sinking feeling of "I tryed my best but in the end it didn't really matter, why am I even still trying at all..."

Hah, it must suck to work difficult on Set 6 and then the main discussion on forums is still about how the business model needs changing! But I guess that's what you get when the business model is bad.

For it to work you'd have to have a large base of obsessive people! That's why this model works in Japan, where if people like something they REALLY like it..

[Demongod]

Further, if your going to lose anyway, at least trying to out last Crest Spy is a new "mini-game" you get to play, with 1 sp as a prize. I just think this idea would be a really cool way for over matched players to have a minor victory to strive for rather then the current system where if they play it out all they get is the sinking feeling of "I tryed my best but in the end it didn't really matter, why am I even still trying at all..."

Hah, it must suck to work difficult on Set 6 and then the main discussion on forums is still about how the business model needs changing! But I guess that's what you get when the business model is bad.

For it to work you'd have to have a large base of obsessive people! That's why this model works in Japan, where if people like something they REALLY like it..

Well so long as the business model stays the same, the topics on the forums will stay the same! What use is all the new content when so many of the players can't access it, aside from getting beaten down by it? I'm already dreading facing the new undead decks. 3 SP for a 40 HP 4 agi 30 dmg undead that gives agi (Revenant)? And I thought hell smoke was bad...wow.

[icewolf33]

Demongod, seems like if you are a free player you should be happy about powerful effects at common!

Personally I feel that Crest Spy will discourage people from playing Primclone and other super-rare decks, so that is good and not bad!

By the way, I am really curious to know if there is someone on US Alteil team thinking about the differences between US and Japan consumer market, like garcia points out.

[Demongod]

Who says I'm unhappy about Crest spy? He gave me quite a fit of laughter and I get a chuckle every time I think about him.