Phoenix Chick still needs a nerf :p

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Re: Phoenix Chick still needs a nerf :p

Postby AqvasFire2 » Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:51 am

Poor Callonia got owned by an outdated file. Too bad, so sad, include a Raste next time =P. Seriously, who the hell loses to a level 4 that swings for a piddling 30 damage? But then again, it's Callonia we're talking about here, so *shrug*...

Oh, and anyone who depends on pixy aquamancer to win games is just a bad player. That thing is far too random to actually bail you out of tough spots.
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Re: Phoenix Chick still needs a nerf :p

Postby Callonia » Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:53 am

AqvasFire2 wrote:Poor Callonia got owned by an outdated file. Too bad, so sad, include a Raste next time =P. Seriously, who the hell loses to a level 4 that swings for a piddling 30 damage? But then again, it's Callonia we're talking about here, so *shrug*...

Oh, and anyone who depends on pixy aquamancer to win games is just a bad player. That thing is far too random to actually bail you out of tough spots.



Clearly DG is omitting BKR's auto skill to suit his arguments.

Oh and is omitting that Raste have 2 agility where dilate and everyone else he's facing is at 3 agility and doing 80+ dmg while having a choice of using fire arrows or returns at his own disposal.


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Re: Phoenix Chick still needs a nerf :p

Postby Pikeru » Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:54 am

AqvasFire2 wrote:Poor Callonia got owned by an outdated file. Too bad, so sad, include a Raste next time =P. Seriously, who the hell loses to a level 4 that swings for a piddling 30 damage? But then again, it's Callonia we're talking about here, so *shrug*...

Oh, and anyone who depends on pixy aquamancer to win games is just a bad player. That thing is far too random to actually bail you out of tough spots.

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Re: Phoenix Chick still needs a nerf :p

Postby AqvasFire2 » Tue Nov 27, 2012 2:04 am

Pikeru wrote:
AqvasFire2 wrote:Poor Callonia got owned by an outdated file. Too bad, so sad, include a Raste next time =P. Seriously, who the hell loses to a level 4 that swings for a piddling 30 damage? But then again, it's Callonia we're talking about here, so *shrug*...

Oh, and anyone who depends on pixy aquamancer to win games is just a bad player. That thing is far too random to actually bail you out of tough spots.

Yes. Let's all pretend the silver star isn't really there.


Big freaking deal, silver star. 10 wins vs. all the randoms around isn't a given or negligible, but it's not the end of the world either, especially with file switching.

Anyway, to rerail this topic:

The issue with Phoenix chick is that it has unlimited card staying power with no real preconditions. Lycans need a nightmaker. Undeads need PoM. Dilate needs your opponent to be an imbecile and not use max HP hate. Phoenix chick? If your opponent isn't swarming you, then you have a unit that's just going to stay put forever. Heck, in mid refess, you don't even need 3 copies of this thing. Two will do just fine, because you don't even need to play it unless your opponent is heavily dependent on some sort of single-basket heavy damage strategy (lots of Gowen stuff, TJC, bigs).

Honestly, I've lost games just by virtue of running out of LP while the bird was still alive and am pretty confident that if LP wasn't an issue, that the chick would have at the least stalled out an opponent.

And honestly, the fact that its damage is low is sort of immaterial. First of all, 30 damage across a field isn't low. To put it into perspective, Falkow's grim "tempest" is a level 5 that subtracts 30 from everything, not just your opponent. To have a one-sided tempest and give a tank a second life...should that really only be 1 SP?

Same deal with Raste's action skill for that matter...Like The Hand of God...just 2 SP on him? Did I miss something here?
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Re: Phoenix Chick still needs a nerf :p

Postby Callonia » Tue Nov 27, 2012 2:14 am

Phoenix's chick still falls to bkr/dilate/jerk combo sorry. Dandan just got replaced by dilate.

And phoenix chick is agility 2. It won't even get to use its action skill to reset because it just got twoshot maybe three shot if refess player summon the phoenix chick super early by dilate/bkr/jerk combo. lulz.

Oh and it's vulnerable to engage and deagi shenanigans as usual.

Meaning, go ahead and cast an undine oh oops there goes one copy of phoenix chick which just got pwnt by a lvl 1 great spirit. Fine lets pretend miffyre is on the field. It still turns out the same and it dies to bkr/dilate/jerk anyways. And drop a random engage ss on phoenix chick or just ...

ya know, enormous frog work as well. Holy crap, looks like defs is still op. Diondora sending an engaged phoenix chick back to file for just paltry 2 sp.
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Re: Phoenix Chick still needs a nerf :p

Postby Icyglare » Tue Nov 27, 2012 8:32 pm

AqvasFire2 wrote:Too bad, so sad, include a Raste next time =P. Seriously, who the hell loses to a level 4 that swings for a piddling 30 damage?


Who the hell loses to a level 5/6 that swings for a piddling 20/30 damage?
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Re: Phoenix Chick still needs a nerf :p

Postby Callonia » Tue Nov 27, 2012 9:16 pm

Icyglare wrote:
AqvasFire2 wrote:Too bad, so sad, include a Raste next time =P. Seriously, who the hell loses to a level 4 that swings for a piddling 30 damage?


Who the hell loses to a level 5/6 that swings for a piddling 20/30 damage?


That would be demongod lol.

I lose to 100+ damage noob slashes :(
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Re: Phoenix Chick still needs a nerf :p

Postby worthing » Wed Nov 28, 2012 1:24 am

Just play mercenary. A while ago I saw a guy kill 3 phoenix chicks in one turn with mecenary as his only unit with no ss or grims. cuz thats what mercenaries do
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Re: Phoenix Chick still needs a nerf :p

Postby Romdeau » Wed Nov 28, 2012 1:42 am

Just ask yourselves, what would mercenary do?
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Re: Phoenix Chick still needs a nerf :p

Postby Callonia » Wed Nov 28, 2012 3:02 am

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Then he would promptly shoot his way through problems.
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