Make Refess reliant on more than start skill snowballs

[Peralisc9001]

Oh look Gon figured out those file types sorta play the same. Should we just tell him that Refess style was suppose to be units supporting each other? Or should we wait till he figures it out.

Step aside and watch as he requests countless debuff units for refess although it's out of sphere ... it's lawtia's domain, well it should be.

Fortune is EX and requires lawtia sphere for a reason. Same for gravan.

[AquasFire3]

There is a difference between snowballing and units supporting each other. Refess is the most synergistic sphere when comes to buffs.

[AqvasFire2]

There is a difference between snowballing and units supporting each other. Refess is the most synergistic sphere when comes to buffs.

That's what a snowball is, aquacks. It starts off small then it gets bigger and bigger and bigger until it completely rolls anyone in its path. Every Refess unit buffing every other one creates a snowball of buffs. Ya know?

[AquasFire3]

Thats like saying traditional wk just stacks agi and rush everything. There is more to refess then just sititng there and letting everything build up. From buffs

[AqvasFire2]

Thats like saying traditional wk just stacks agi and rush everything. There is more to refess then just sititng there and letting everything build up. From buffs

Actually, there's very little beyond that. Plop units, play general's order once you don't have any more units to plop, then just press attack (or use action skills). It's boring as hell to play, and boring to play against (though it does feel good to win against that).

[fargone]

It's boring as hell to play, and boring to play against (though it does feel good to win against that).

That sentence is an oxymoron.

I am tempted to add a play on words here. But for now,I will leave it at that.

[AquasFire3]

Well i must play refess different then everyone then because i normally get interesting combos. And you saying refess is just tanking that is the hugest lie. so many things can disrupt refess if you know the right tricks to get refess behind a few turns.

[GonFreeces31]

Thats like saying traditional wk just stacks agi and rush everything. There is more to refess then just sititng there and letting everything build up. From buffs

Actually, there's very little beyond that. Plop units, play general's order once you don't have any more units to plop, then just press attack (or use action skills). It's boring as hell to play, and boring to play against (though it does feel good to win against that).

you can tldr most spheres in the game just like this.

Refess: plop units, rely on buffs, snowball
Falkow: plop units, return or engage problem units, kill weak links
gowen: plop units, click attack, grim spam
lawtia: plop units, time a trick well, iczer attack

[AqvasFire2]

Thats like saying traditional wk just stacks agi and rush everything. There is more to refess then just sititng there and letting everything build up. From buffs

Actually, there's very little beyond that. Plop units, play general's order once you don't have any more units to plop, then just press attack (or use action skills). It's boring as hell to play, and boring to play against (though it does feel good to win against that).

you can tldr most spheres in the game just like this.

Refess: plop units, rely on buffs, snowball
Falkow: plop units, return or engage problem units, kill weak links
gowen: plop units, click attack, grim spam
lawtia: plop units, time a trick well, iczer attack

Big Red says wat. Wyverns say wat. Big Lawtia says wat. Fieldmons say wat. Any gowen without attack grims say wat.

Except every single Refess strategy, aside from maybe Big Ref (unless you count TR as a buffer =P), is "plop unit, use start buffs, plop another unit, snowball the buffs, etc."

[AquasFire3]

You ever played refess knights, they are not really like that they are more about counter skills. And a person who is good at refess knights can sit at a pretty decent rp with them. also i wouldn't say em is just about buffing since em can actually do decent with out ofren buffing the whole time.

Need more examples??? Buffing is a strategy in refess but its not all they do.