Icyglare wrote:Scientiafide wrote:Pikeru was saying that if everyone is using shade, the win % of players using shade would be 50% (since everyone's using it).
Anyway, to the matter of return and shade, I will say that in magic the gathering the card common to all mono-red decks are mountains. Since every red-deck win uses mountains, does this mean mountains are op?
Did you read my mind, I was gonna post about the overuse of Mountains in MTG also!
Romdeau wrote:Cards that are auto-includes because of their flexibility (ability to use in just about any file) does not alone warrant a nerf.
You may not be aware of this, but shade was the target of a rather heavy nerf a long time ago. So it's not like these cards are immune or something.
Pikeru wrote:The most absurd argument that could be thought of. ..blahblah
Pikeru wrote:It's easy to ignore someone's points and call them biased, this is just dodging the issue and not constructive.
Pikeru wrote:...At this point, return and send-to-grave have been around so long, it seems to be more a matter of bias....
GonFreeces31 wrote:I liked the argument you made about how return is the same as 3 fire arrows and a bitter destiny all at once. Haven't heard that one before.
Pikeru wrote:Legacy or rather Type 1.5 MTG exists, since you forgot. MTG has multiple formats and even numerous more so in MTG Online, something this game lacks. If you're going to compare Alteil to MTG, you have to use 1.5 as it includes all sets.
Where everyone else just wants to state fact without putting in effort to explain, I'd rather not waste my time. Thus why I make supporting statements and examples to back up what I say, like what you just quoted. Creatures have 3 lives and refund their cost when they die. A Fire Arrow removes one life and Bitter Destiny steals the sp refund. Return ignores those lives and the creature's refund, meaning it does the job of 4 cards at once.
Icyglare wrote:don't waste your time because your supporting statements SUCK.
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