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Wait Logress!!! Hold your ponies!!!

Postby kudaotai » Fri Oct 18, 2013 10:56 am

I was writing to respond your post in the front page dated 4th Oct then I saw the new post for KS relaunch on 23rd. IMO it is a bad timing, because audience are focusing on Faeria now, risky gamble I would say. Anyway, the novel below is what my personal opinion to answer your question in the last part of 4th Oct announcement. Here goes everything:

I’m a newbie here and I would like to respond to Logress’ post in the front page. Spare my English since I’m a 7 year old kid.

The way I see your kickstarter being made is subpar appealing in overall imo compared to other CCG&TCG of your league. Generally what Alteil offer VISUALLY is indeed excellent but the TECHNICAL (not gameplay) side of it is discouraging in the eyes of some possible newcomers.

What are the things that appeal?

1. Card arts = bithcslapped all TCG, CCG and CTCG so far.
2. Propaganda = nice.
It’s good to have the popular site to write something about Alteil, even better if you can get the big sites (IGN alike) to feature Alteil. I see you’re working for the articles very hard, I wish you the best.

3. New main site = sexy.
Improve this by adding the most successful combo of game element : Hero, Heroine, Villain, Badass Monster, and Cuteness (obsidian buncle seems to have the pokemon appeal). Alteil does have the arts to fit these elements, choose wisely and show them off on the main page, and modify the page a bit so it can auto resize for smaller screen.

4. Battle grid = erotic.
Groawrrrrrr. Nyaaaaaannnnn. Pew pew. If you know what I mean.

5. Early birds pledge = orgasmic.
Improve this by expanding the limit. This one seems to be the best offer. There’s a chance that people will pledge or not just by seeing this offer availability. For them it’s either pledge or leave. It’s a good feeling to be one of lucky early bird dontcha think?


What are the thing that meh, pffft and bloody discouraging?

1. Amazon Payment = meh.
Only people who can sign up to amazon can pledge wtf??? There should be a pledge option for outside US, what I’m trying to say is the 0 USD pledge kinda thing. I saw a kickstarter page that done this (I don’t remember which, don’t have link), it is closely something like below:
Pledge a donation: For our international user that is unable to pay with amazon you can pledge a donation (xxUSD). You can start your fund transfer if we reach 80% target 10 days before funding period ends. Please contact us with donation details using your kickstarter.

2. Stretch goals component = pffft.
You put your auction house in stretch goal, but you’re going to implement it anyway?? I think there’s a crowdfunded movie that uses DYNAMIC STRETCH GOAL. This one is better suited for auction house and alike. How does it work?? See below:
    i. ($70k) TBA: Dec 2014
      Auction House
      Premium features #1 etc…
    ii. ($100k) TBA: Oct 2014
      Auction House
      Premium features #1 etc…
    iii. ($120k) TBA: Sep 2013
      Auction House
      Premium features #1 etc…
    iv. ….
    v. ($12M): TBA day after funding ends
      Auction House
      Premium features #1 etc…
vi. Dynamic goal are meant to cover expenses that closely related to your manpower and resourcing. Such as bigger fund means more programmers and job done faster. Though this is superficial, at least this will tell pledgers that THEY WILL HAVE IT NO MATTER WHAT, just question of time. Well each feature can have different TBA, do it as you see fit. If you manage to release thing earlier than TBA promised of the funded amount, it is a good image for your game and admins/dev.

3. Forum = bloody discouraging.
ACID, BLOOD, CANCER, DISEASE, PHLEGM and ABOMINATION.

Believe it or not, no matter how good you hide your forum, gamers nature will always seek for the games forum as it is 50% of the game imo. It’s human nature to be curious dontcha think?

MAEK UH NEWH PHORUM PHOR ALTEIL HORIZON!!!
It works just like a counter skill: If newplayer look for Alteil forum, show AH forum. This way you will superficially telling them that our rotten forum did not exist.

IMPHORTANTEH: Get AH forum up before starting kickstarter, flood it with strategy guide, legacy gameplay vids, starter prediction etc… to give a good appeal to possible AH new player. MODS will have to INDISCRIMINATELY delete post that is flaming, ranting, monetary related thread and anything that is not helping. Of course you have to be careful not to piss off newcomer asking stupid questions.


What is great to have/show but not extremely necessary?

1. Gameplay Videos
Good job having a gameplay vid like EN, in the commentary are tutorial like, which is a good thing. Keep it.

To make thing spicier, get any experienced player to do commentary vid of actual battle with all the drama and emotion of joy, rage, scream and orgasmic moan. This will make alteil look exciting for newbies. It is quite effective to gain playerbase, seen it works in other MMO.


What are the things you left out?

1. Good catch phrase alike:
Being said that advertising your monetary model directly like F2P, it’s bad since Alteil is not accurately F2P. Think of something new such as “Playing is Collecting”, it should give a vague idea that Alteil can be play for free.

IMPORTANTEUZ: Think of cool phrase such as:
“Game for Strategist” or “Game Designed for Strategist” instead of “Strategy Game”. Don’t describe your game, describe your players. Your reader will have an impression like “Owh! I’m indeed smart and genius, this game is for me!”

“Brain does Matter” instead of “Challenging Game”. This is called as something like Subconscious Provocation/Challenge which is positive; don’t remember exact term but it is widely used OP weapon in adv industry as its mission is to get readers to feel subconsciously challenged and curious. Psychology FTW!!!

Claim yourself as CTCG instead of CCG or TCG. Cards are COLLECTIBLE (appease spender) and TRADEABLE (appease freeplayer), nuff said.

“Online turn-based tactics card game with a battle grid by creators of Star Ocean & Valkyrie Profile. Artists from Zelda & Final Fantasy”. Please reword and make the sentence fancier, this sentence tells me that you’re not excited enough, too dull especially the Artist part, are you lazy???

Get help from linguistic specialist in adv industries. Or get a modern dictionary. Or studies existing cool advertisement phrases.

2. Playable demos
Good thing that you’re working on it.

3. Volume
Get the big sites to publish articles about AH 1st day of kickstarter, if it is out before your kick starter start, they might not found your KS page, and forget about it next day.

Have AH featured in Kongregate and alikes, in the 1st day of KS. It is good if you can integrate Kong, but don’t go for facebook I BEG YOUHH (current trend is destroying games), u’ll have more haters than likers.

TRUE STORY: I’m a forum mod for a game that destroyed by its FB debut which:
Before FB debut: small player base (very much like alteil).

After FB debut: same small player base + haters that rage about their page being flood by stupid request/invitation and annoyed their friends.

AFTER KONG DEBUT&FB APP KILLED: playerbase X 6 + same haters (turned to trolls) from FB + POSITIVE KIDS from KONG.

Conclusion? Skip FB nuff said. It’s bad having haters to linger around the forum enough to make me quit modding and discourage other player. Seriously there are 40+ DG over there after 3 month of FB debut. Alteil is lucky to have only one. Build strong forum community first then it is ok to consider FB.

4. Donation
What you can do is provide the EARLY BIRDS for people outside US in 0 USD pledge form. The rewards should be a bit inferior from US early birds, to avoid the US pledgers to go for this instead. Or just state that this pledge option will be available at let say 80% if it reached 7 days before funding period ends. Note: it is very sad that I can’t pledge even though it is within my wallet capacity (look at my $ spending log will you Logress??). Living in different continent is sad

5. As I mentioned before, add link to forum, and it’s a good thing if you update your AH progress over there.
REMEMBER, FORUM ITSELF IS THE GAME.


I have a lot to talk about premium features and your stretch goal in detail, but I’ll do it later. I have to go to my kindergarten, or my cute ultra-revealing teacher will scold me softly.

Regards,
Your Grandpa.

Ps: Logress & GGG, put your baby inside buncle costume, make it cute AH release alternate art FTW!!!
Ps: MysteryMan, I admire the buncle on your shoulder. Don’t deny it I know it is not a cat.
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Re: Wait Logress!!! Hold your ponies!!!

Postby Icyglare » Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:28 pm

Holy crap, it's been eons since I saw that sig
For a large amount of various Alteil Replays, try youtube link

<-- http://www.youtube.com/AlteilReplays -->

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Re: Wait Logress!!! Hold your ponies!!!

Postby Khiruki » Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:58 pm

hbkies, Tyhja, and freed went to Faeria... , _ ,
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Re: Wait Logress!!! Hold your ponies!!!

Postby kudaotai » Fri Oct 18, 2013 6:49 pm

Icyglare wrote:Holy crap, it's been eons since I saw that sig

No sir, no crap is holy. I have remorse for that sig, coz people camped my premature weak UD file, how sad, BUT IM A REAL MAN. ;zagar

Khiruki wrote:hbkies, Tyhja, and freed went to Faeria... , _ ,

They'll soon return return once they notice Alteil have better depth, once AH relaunch. ;th2
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Re: Wait Logress!!! Hold your ponies!!!

Postby Callonia » Sat Oct 19, 2013 8:17 am

I think I remember Kudaotai's sig. If I have dueled you before in the past, i can assure you that I didn't camp you. I press that damn search battle button when I want to.
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Re: Wait Logress!!! Hold your ponies!!!

Postby Logress » Sat Oct 19, 2013 2:54 pm

Started a post about this in general discussion...
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Re: Wait Logress!!! Hold your ponies!!!

Postby kudaotai » Sun Oct 20, 2013 12:12 am

Callonia wrote:I think I remember Kudaotai's sig. If I have dueled you before in the past, I can assure you that I didn't camp you.

Yeah, I know that, because you're not in the list that I saved as a draft in my email (I memorized the name tho). Those people are from my timezone region and some insomniac from US. BlackSunRX is my only friend playing in my timezone, i'ts either go lucky matched up with me or go bad luck matching up with BlackSunRX. I wonder whether he still playing...
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Re: Wait Logress!!! Hold your ponies!!!

Postby Callonia » Sun Oct 20, 2013 2:53 am

kudaotai wrote:
Callonia wrote:I think I remember Kudaotai's sig. If I have dueled you before in the past, I can assure you that I didn't camp you.

Yeah, I know that, because you're not in the list that I saved as a draft in my email (I memorized the name tho). Those people are from my timezone region and some insomniac from US. BlackSunRX is my only friend playing in my timezone, i'ts either go lucky matched up with me or go bad luck matching up with BlackSunRX. I wonder whether he still playing...


BSRX quit. Never liked him anyways.
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