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Re: Beginner's packs are returning!

Postby azurewrath » Fri Jun 04, 2010 2:29 pm

It has been said that those that are best at judging the value of cards are the best players~~~
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Re: Beginner's packs are returning!

Postby Lateralus923 » Fri Jun 04, 2010 2:33 pm

Guys, stop lookin at these cards from a meta standpoint. They're not gonna hook up newbies with EFS, monster decks, lycan rush, etc for 5 bucks. These are just some 1* cards to give options. They're not the best, but decent from a 1* standpoint. Aside frome 30/30 SS, there aren't a whole lot of better options out there...

Now a 2* "beginner" pack... that could get pretty sick.

Miracle fruit
Sunlight knight
Forest of hate
Forest rhino
Giant gorilla
L337 fencer
Mage knight of regus
Hell smoke
POM
Lycan [fenrir]
SKs
Magic greatsword soldier
Bog wyvern
Bladesman

To name a few ^^
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Re: Beginner's packs are returning!

Postby Peralisc2 » Fri Jun 04, 2010 2:40 pm

There're meta cards too. Falkow gets more meta cards than lawtia and more meta-ish cards at that.

I mean you don't want to excuse halberd soldier with another "you have to time it right vs permanently 30 DF buffed units!" phrase, do you?
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Re: Beginner's packs are returning!

Postby GOSCAR » Fri Jun 04, 2010 2:41 pm

Lateralus923 wrote:Guys, stop lookin at these cards from a meta standpoint. They're not gonna hook up newbies with EFS, monster decks, lycan rush, etc for 5 bucks. These are just some 1* cards to give options. They're not the best, but decent from a 1* standpoint. Aside frome 30/30 SS, there aren't a whole lot of better options out there...

Now a 2* "beginner" pack... that could get pretty sick.

Miracle fruit
Sunlight knight
Forest of hate
Forest rhino
Giant gorilla
L337 fencer NO
Mage knight of regus
Hell smoke
POM
Lycan [fenrir]
SKs
Magic greatsword soldier
Bog wyvern NO
Bladesman

To name a few ^^

Good idea maybe you should suggest it in the Safiria section if not I will. Also lets not make broken unit easily accessed.
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Re: Beginner's packs are returning!

Postby imortal12233 » Fri Jun 04, 2010 2:53 pm

Peralisc2 wrote:
imortal12233 wrote: lawtia got second worst

Lawtia got nothing.

let's put it this way, on my falkow alt, I wouldn't add a single one of those cards (or I already have them, such as witch, from starter and FM lotto), since none fit. on my lawt alt on the other hand, I could (and would) add crest halbred.
both got shafted compared to refress & gowen though.
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Re: Beginner's packs are returning!

Postby Multi » Fri Jun 04, 2010 3:15 pm

Logress wrote:Under no circumstances will the pack deliver more than 3 of one card


Requesting this be applied to boxes and/or gold boxes.

About lawtia getting shafted, in general, how many 1* cards in lawtia are actually super good anyways?

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Card name Lv LP HP AT DF AGI RNG Types Rarity
Moonlight Warrior 3 2 50 30 0 3 1 Unit *
Magic Doll 2 1 20 20 0 3 3 Unit *
Skeleton Master 3 3 40 10 0 4 3 Unit *
Crest Regenerator Knight 3 2 50 30 0 2 1 Unit *
Invisible Druid 2 1 20 0 0 4 2 Unit *
Girl Spectre 3 2 30 30 0 3 3 Unit *
Animated Dead 1 2 20 30 0 1 1 Unit *
Shade 1 1 10 10 0 3 3 Unit *
Flesh Recycle 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 Grim *
Turn to Dust 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 Grim *
Lycanthrope [Legion] 1 1 30 0 0 2 2 Unit *
Cutter of the Cord 3 1 30 20 0 1 1 Unit *
Skeleton Warrior 2 2 20 20 0 5 1 Unit *
Crest Mindsoldier 4 2 50 20 10 4 1 Unit *
Elder Druid 2 1 20 20 0 3 3 Unit *
Ghost 3 2 50 20 0 2 3 Unit *
Black Hound 3 2 30 40 0 4 1 Unit *
Succubus 1 3 20 10 0 2 3 Unit *
Life Conversion 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 Grim *
Soul Pact 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 Grim *
Crest Halberd Soldier 3 1 40 30 0 2 3 Unit *
Cemetery Rats 1 1 20 10 0 1 1 Unit *

Girl Druid 2 1 20 30 0 3 2 Unit *
Novice Assassin 2 1 20 30 0 4 1 Unit *

Criminal Edge 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 Grim *
Soulblade Swordswoman 2 1 30 20 0 4 1 Unit *
Living Armor 5 2 90 40 0 2 1 Unit *
Crest Cursed Swordsman 4 1 40 50 0 3 1 Unit *
Magic Doll -Defective- 1 1 20 20 0 3 1 Unit *
Curse Spell 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 Grim *
Magic Doll -Sniper- 3 1 40 20 0 3 5 Unit *
Broken Priest 1 1 20 0 0 4 2 Unit *
Crest Veteran Swordswoman 5 1 60 60 0 4 1 Unit *
Night Soul 2 1 20 20 0 4 1 Unit *
Exchange of Souls 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 Grim *
Haste Assassin 2 1 10 10 0 4 1 Unit *
Consuming Grudge 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 Grim *
Magic Doll -Healer- 2 1 50 20 0 2 1 Unit *
Crest Spy 3 1 40 20 0 2 1 Unit *
Revenant 3 1 40 30 0 4 1 Unit *



There is a pretty limited selection after all. Lawtia's pretty heavily reliant on 2*'s I think.
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Re: Beginner's packs are returning!

Postby luckysvn777 » Fri Jun 04, 2010 3:40 pm

There should be a 2* "Intermediate Pack"

And may I maybe hope for even a 3* "Advanced Pack" as well?

Of course, those would be appropriately priced... and not really accessible to free players... low spenders on the other hand... well there you go, good way to encourage spending ^^
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Re: Beginner's packs are returning!

Postby Peralisc2 » Fri Jun 04, 2010 5:08 pm

Well ya, that would make sense ... like say having some players drop 15 - 20 for such a pack / box instead of leaving the game in frustration. ;th2
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Re: Beginner's packs are returning!

Postby GOSCAR » Fri Jun 04, 2010 5:14 pm

More like $7.50 for 2* and the pack contains 30 cards; then $10 for 3* and the pack contains 20 cards.
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Re: Beginner's packs are returning!

Postby Multi » Fri Jun 04, 2010 6:16 pm

GOSCAR wrote:More like $7.50 for 2* and the pack contains 30 cards; then $10 for 3* and the pack contains 20 cards.


^Lol.

To elaborate, there are 20 3*'s per sphere, 80 3*'s in total. For $10 dollars for only 3*'s and for 20 cards, we're talking about 50cents per card, even though the recycle value is already at 30gran. You'll probably be able to completely well over half of the 3*'s from about 50 dollars, whatever you don't need will recycle for a little more than half of what you paid, giving it much much much higher return value than either packs or boxes. Once you've gotten 3*'s out of the way, there's almost no point in buying boxes or packs other than to chase after 4*'s and 5*'s which means you'll be recycling 90-100% of your purchase. This works similarly with the 2* pack for $7.50 as that's only 25cents per card while they recycle for 10gran each, compared to a pack which avg's 30cents per card and recycles for 7gran each, not to mention the huge advantage of having a pack only give 2*'s and 3*'s.

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